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Old 22-05-2008, 13:16   #6995
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by icsys View Post
The PIA isn't finished yet as there are about 3 days work left to do on it.
But what of the video? Is it's release delayed because the PIA isn't finished?
The video is nothing to do with 80/20 Thinking, they were told by Phorm that the video would be released unedited to the public (before the event) and therefore added the info the event notice (granted they didn't clarify that Phorm were responsible for the video but I don't believe that was to try and hide the fact, merely a mistake).

Phorm seem to have chosen to not release the video now (although nothing official has come from Phorm regarding this either to myself, any of you guys or Simon) but there is nothing 80/20 can do to change that, it is not something within their control.

Simon apologised for the confusion about the video here in person, there isn't much more he can do in that regard.

Alexander Hanff

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Originally Posted by Florence View Post
MPO is this working party shouldn't be started using 80/20 thinking until the published PIA is realsed and phorm an ex customer.. Until then it is like putting the leader of the armed forces in charge of parliment and not saying it is a military coo...

Nothing against Simon but surely he can see the conflict of interest this will bring if Phorm is still a paying customer and the doubt it will bring on the outcome of this working party....
I think you are mis-understanding what a working group is. 80/20 Thinking are leading the group, bringing people together from industry, regulators and others to build a framework. But they are not in "control", they don't decide the policy they are more like mediators but mediators who have experience of the law and issues being discussed.

Or at least that is my understanding of it, I could be wrong but 80/20 will be an objective party in the group as opposed to subjective (the industry would be subjective as they are debating how it effects them as opposed to looking at the issue from a neutral point).

The above is my personal opinion and interpretation though, I haven't discussed the issue at length with Simon, just comments in conversation.

If Simon manages to visit us again on cableforum people could ask him and I am sure he will be more than happy to respond.

Alexander Hanff

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On a more uplifting note, Phorm shares down almost 7% so far today and heading back to where they were before the unusual boost the other week.

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