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Originally Posted by tvtimes
Forcing you to get their phone line too which means paying £150 for BT install. Nice one Sky 
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Thats silly you know if you dont have a VM line its not free to phone VM so its the same with both companies. In fact you dont even need to pay sky line rental if you on sky talk CPS then thats enough for free calls to their call centres.
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Originally Posted by tvtimes
VM may not be profitable but that is only due to their debt. It does not mean they are not successful. Vm are very successful hence all the interest from PE firms. VM has managed to constantly increase their subscriber numbers quarter upon quarter whilst all the time reducing churn. This makes them a success but they debt over shadows them dramatically. If VM was not indebt it would be very profitable indeed 
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VM I believe sell certian premium channels at a loss to remain competitive, non premium channels are mostly break even or a very small profit. I have heard from more than one source TV makes them no money and its just so they could offer triple play.
Sky however is the opposite they sell broadband at a loss but it means they also offer triple play. So both companies are making losses on certian products to keep customer retention high.