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Old 18-05-2008, 13:13   #6790
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by jelv View Post

Plusnet has publicly stated it is having nothing to do with Phorm.

I also note that on the Dephormation website under the webmaster tools it says

Brightview/Madasafish are owned by BT but operated by Plusnet and use some of the same IP ranges. They should not be included as they come under the same Plusnet policy statement. I wonder if this is the reason for the false Plusnet positives.
Remember this is not about the user's choice, this is about the ISPs choice.

Until recently, Plusnet were posting to their newsgroups saying that they couldn't see a problem with Phorm...

Ian Wild said to quote
"What I said was that if the majority of the benefit is given back to consumers and people are explicitly made aware that it's happening with their data, I can't see the problem with approaches along these lines."
From the perspective of a web master, that's the wrong answer. Phorm (opt in or out) abuses web site owners copyrights, and intrudes on their private communications.

If Plusnet can't see the problem with that I'm not very sympathetic. If you can point me to an official statement that says they will never implement Phorm (or anything like it) despite Ian Wilds comments, I'll certainly consider taking them out of the list on Dephormation.

PS: Incidentally I note in anther post Ian Wild states
"I can't guarantee that the RIN platform won't be affected (It presumably will)"
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I don't think it's a bad thing provided the advantages are shared with customers and nothing is done without the knowledge of the customers affected.
So that would not include sharing the benefit with the content/copright owner? Or concern to avoid compromising their privacy?

Sin bin as far as I'm concerned. Other web masters might take different views.

Pete
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