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Old 17-05-2008, 19:03   #6771
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by BadPhormula View Post
Here is an interesting thread over on Badphorm.co.uk titled "ALL MEMBERS READ *** IMPORTANT ***"

I think it's interesting from the point of view that BT/Phorm have created a situation where the very nature of trust on the Internet is being called into question. When you can't trust your own ISP service provider who can you trust? This thread isn't about BT/Phorm directly (or is it?) it is about one of the moderators warning people about an SQL Injection from a website based in Texas, USA and a suspicious NMAP scan... And as you can see from the details badphorm.co.uk webserver is based in Texas, USA.

As we uncover more dirt on the BT/Phorm saga and the word gets out to a wider audience (the masses). More and more people are naturally going to become paranoid, upset, uncertain and suspicious of every little thing that happens on the Internet... And who's fault is that? Well basically my money is one guy in particular a sneaky shyster @sshole called Stratis Scleparis, this toe tag is responsible for what has been happening at BT and Phorm, he is Phorm's CTO and was formally BT Retails CTO. The guy that made this Phorm sh*t spying happen. Emma Sanderson's involvement may have been as co-conspirator back when sneak Scleparis was in charge of the BT spying but she is definately upto her neck in the sh*t now.

IANAL but I think BT will have a case to answer for with regards to psychological damage done to their customers. I just want people to bear this in mind as they may have a case for suing BT at some point in the future.

http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?5712.0
I think this is an interesting and worrying statement. I have been in the position whereby a computer I am 'cleaning' or investigating has had strange and worrying IP symptoms. Normally, I can narrow down the problem down by some simple testing and ruling out the obvious safe harbours.

In a hypothetical scenario: I am in a similar position with Phorm/Webwise intercepting my data by deep packet inspection. I don't trust them and I am aware of the latent power available in this invasive technology. I have strange IP symptoms on the PC I am investigating and I am trying to logically prove where and why the problem occurred and how to fix it?

How can I ever hand on heart rule out malpractice on their part if I don't trust Phorm. I have little or no respect for Phorm and I am aware of their rootkit, PeopleOnPage, ContextPlus adware history as 121Media!

It would be impossible for me to do true logical analysis because if Phorm/Webwise was in place, knowing their in-line position, intercepting my data stream and knowing they theoretically have the ability do anything they so desired, I could never rule them out as the source of the problem because hand on heart, I will never trust them!

This really has to be stopped! ISP's must realise this 'lack of trust' knock on effect is very important as well as the general privacy and legal issues we all shout about.
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