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Originally Posted by frogstamper
Recently I have lost a fair bit of faith in Brown, but Osem you hardly come at this from a neutral point, this is one ofmany anti-Brown, anti-Labour posts, I honestly do not know what you think Brown, or for that matter Cameron can do to stop these wicked random killings. To make progress against these types of "people" is going to be a generational project, a lot of them come from homes without any aspiration's a total lack of respect for anybody but themselves and an attitude that the world owes them a living. So to make a statement that Browns not listening to people who have lost their children to murder is puerile, as Ive stated earlier his not my choice at present and I doubt very much Id vote for him at the next election, but Id not make a comment like that about any politician.
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Anti government? Well possibly that's because we only have one government at any given time don't we and we don't get terribly far harping on about the last lot like Bliar and Brown have done ever since they took power. Given that this lot have been in power since 1997 and having got there on a series of promises like "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime", they're largely the ones in the firing line for the mess we're in. You clearly haven't been reading my posts properly for if you had you'd know that for me it doesn't matter what colour rosettes politicians wear on their lapels - unlike far too many folk I've never been one to vote out of habit or blind loyalty and I don't intend to change that policy. Far from being a Tory as you seem to imply I have yet to make up my mind who is going to get my vote at the next election but when we have a new government and they cock up on as large a scale as this mottley crew have you can expect me to be just as hard on them!
You imply that Brown is listening well perhaps you can give us all some examples of how he's done that. How much has he listened to the families of all those young people who've been killed. To my recollection the last victims they listened to were the Lawrence family. IMHO, the only time Brown has listened to people is when his job has been on the line or his own party, including thoroughly honourable MP's like Frank Field, have forced him to.
As for the rest of your post well you are correct in part but wrong to the extent that governments ARE responsible for making the laws and setting the standards by which our society should operate. They have failed to do that and rather than building the foundations for your so called 'generational' tackling of this issue, they've further undermined the value of the traditional family, eroded the rights of parents, teachers etc. and presided over a decade during which many young people have totally lost respect for figures of authority and there's been ever increasing violence amongst them. Excuse me for not patting them on the back.