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Old 10-05-2008, 23:51   #6306
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Dephormation View Post
Oh no. I'm not that evil.

I would ensure the ISP gave me explicit consent... ISPs will indicate their explicit consent to be charged for commercial exploitation by Phorging a UID cookie in my domain.

As for AIM, joy to say the mechanism for generating this revenue is so simple anyone could do it. In a nutshell; force leaked UID cookie, log commercial exploitation event, invoice ISP for page impression royalties and then... either draw income from factor (and allow them to chase bad debt on your behalf) or sue ISP in small claims court for royalties once a month.

Anyone with a relatively basic web site hosting package would be able to do it (and never have to show an advert). Or you could use the expected income to upgrade your hosting package if necessary.

No legal fees, you can represent yourself in small claims.



Pete.
talking about "commercial exploitation" i think it would be a very good thing to include in any future system the badphorm thread is talking about, some extra billing expansion and growth to allow for the inclusion of the mobile networks data plans for "commercial exploitation " of this same data.

the UKs mobile networks generate massive profits from chargeing per Mbit, again profiteering off the backs of the free content peoples work,they too need to be potentially included in this evolving system in the future.

with WiMax just around the corner, the ElReg reported Orange Mobile selling/moving into the mobile Phorm like system, and the expectation from the UK networks to move over in a very big way to the Wimax data Mb model as their largest ever cashcow, both data pimping and wholesale Megabit charging, its only a matter of time before we might need to include this talked about billing option to reclaim our cash generators back, or put a stop to the "commercial exploitation " practice and force them to move over to a "reasonable" real fixed fee for a fair amount of data model.

pass this comment to the BP thread if you like as im not reged there (dont like being forced to register anywere just to make the odd comment now and then...).

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Originally Posted by mark777 View Post
Might be best to start small at first though. I think the limit for the small claims court is £5k.
it is, iv said for a long time now though, if as happened with the banks and the unlawful charges, if enough small claims were to find their way into the court system for long enough to cause a backlog, then you will find the county courts wanting to move the strongest cases to the higher courts, and so getting real industry wide action and justice in new and updated "commercial exploitation" rulings in the small users/business favour perhaps.

in affect, you need to send the bill, then a letter before action, and fill in an N1 form from the local small claims county court ( send a copy of it unsigned to show them your serious and have it ready lol) , or you can do it online from the small claim moneyclaim HMC service.
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