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Old 08-05-2008, 18:24   #6118
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Dephormation View Post

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Google make money. Not from my copyright content, but from their adverts.
I don't want to wade into a heated debate here but isn't it true to say that Google wouldn't exist if it couldn't scan pages and index websites, arguably breaching copyright in the process?

But as I said I don't want to stir controversy - seems like its been a hot afternoon!

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Originally Posted by jelv View Post
I've been thinking more about the robots.txt situation.

To stop Phorm pimping the information on our sites when visited by a user on a Webwise ISP I have to stop Google indexing my site.
I see this as a very interesting topic. At the risk of poking the angry bear(s) (not a reference to Old Bear) I'd say that Phorm have a duty to identify themselves as an indexing or profiling engine of some sort.

I'm not sure of the laws or even the recommendations and RFCs but I feel it would be wrong for Phorm to use a browser user agent string when asking for robots.txt (but "okay" to mimic the browser agent of the user when transacting with the website - "okay" if you agree Phorm is okay in the first place!).

It would also clearly be wrong for it to impersonate any of the major indexing robots, which leaves them with 2 choices - use a unique identifier that sooner or later someone will work out as Phorm or leave it blank.
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