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Originally Posted by Stuart C

If that's true, it's another strike against democracy by "the land of the free"..

Something Simon with his Privacy international hat on would have fought.. but with his 80/20 hat on will this mean surrender the freedom.


I do feel for him but as it says in the bible sell you soul to the devil and all is lost.

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Q: What fees (or other gifts/gratuities) were paid to Simon Davies and Gus Hosein when they were "invited" to assess Phorm's privacy protection measures? Does Phorm, or any of its directors, agents or employees have any interests in 80/20 Thinking

A: Phorm, its directors, agents or employees have no interests whatsoever in 80/20 Thinking. 80/20 Thinking is a consulting business founded and run by Managing Director Simon Davies, who is also a director of Privacy International, one of the leading privacy advocacy bodies. Phorm has retained 80/20 Thinking to conduct a Privacy Impact Assessment on its technologies, systems and policies and we will work with them on an ongoing basis throughout the year. We chose 80/20 Thinking because Simon Davies has spent the best part of thirty years championing consumer privacy and railing against infringements. We wanted our systems and policies to be open to the kind of unforgiving scrutiny Simon brings.

And yes, 80/20 Thinking does charge for its services, as conducting audits takes time and resources.

I read this and it comes over as more we know Kent has no reputation and what he did here was go for Simon to gain reputation but a lepoard never changes his spots just his hunting habits.

From how Simon seems to have been manipoulated through this whole affair I feel for him it must be torture to see 30yrs of reputation being discredited by someone who has shown contempt for ISP customers with an opinion, failure to do what was promised(video of public meeting) and genrally failed to answer questions with straight answers. Instead you get what is practised sales talk then finally MPO inaccuracies in what VM and he says added to the illegal trials.

Simon is now in a position where he can either save his reputaion or watch his lifes work crumple I certainly woudn't want to be in his shoes.

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Originally Posted by OldBear

Thought you would all like to know what goes on over at the BT forum where a lot of us guys here came from.

A thread made by a fellow called Andrew (one of us here, I think) complaining about BT censoring their forums and removing any threads/posts mentioning Phorm and/or Webwise has just been removed from the forum.

I'm utterly disgusted at this and will be making a written complaint to BT about this.

Anyway, before they removed the thread, I grabbed a copy (it was in my cache) which I am going to up to my webspace somewhere; as soon as I do so, I will be inviting you all to PM me for the url to the thread. Obviously I can't post the url publicly as i can't afford to have BT threatening me.

OB

or the paid Russian hackers placing maliticious iframes on it.

Sad we have to be like this due to a company that is illegal in all its works I think that unless people are willing to match their distrust for Phorm with moving from the 3 Big ISPs then phorm has won.