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Old 23-04-2008, 13:27   #4555
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by vicz View Post
Simon's point is a good one. Entertaining though it may be to hurl abuse at 121media and their b@st@rd scumware offspring, it IS the ISP's who are the villains who are prepared to experiment illegally on their customers. privacy be damned! Say Phorm are forced out of business, do you think the ISPs will stop looking?
This battle will set precedents.

It is being fought on two fronts: the Phorm front and the ISP front. Until some aggrieved BT customers who were affected by the secret tests get BT's corporate backside into court the ISPs will still keep looking into this technology. As seemingly far better informed people than the ISPs seem to be we need to educate the ISPs that what they are doing is illegal and unethical. We can do this by pressuring them as customers who will leave if they implement Phorm and by educating people everywhere about what Phorm really is and really represents.

If BT suffers a heavy legal judgement then that will shatter confidence in them, in Phorm and severely damage any thoughts ISPs might have about using this "product".

VM reiterated to me yesterday that it is not a forgeone conclusion that Phorm will be implemented. So keep up the pressure on Virgin Media and they may decide not to implement. The Guardian have already rejected Phorm with a very polite but scathing put down.

Phorm clearly see people like us as a major threat to their scheme. Making as many people as possible aware of the facts about Phorm (making sure people know this cookie business is all horse manure, your data still goes to their systems unless a true network based opt out is provided), showing Phorm in its true light and pressuring government to finally realise that inaction about BT and Phorm is not an option.

It's an ongoing battle - pressure needs to be kept up on the ISPs and Phorm and awareness needs to be increased.

I see PhormUKPRteam have disappeared again...
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