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Old 22-04-2008, 19:44   #4434
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter View Post
All this talk of cookies helps obfuscate the debate here. There is only one acceptable opt out, something that Phorm never mentioned until last Tuesday night: a network based opt-out which stops the customers' data going anywhere near Phorm's systems.

The cookie thing is irrelevant if your data is still being logged/mirrored/recorded by the Phorm system.

Where the BBC technology article says "the other two [ISPs] will automatically enrol anyone that does not explicitly ask to be excluded." that is an interesting interpretation of "users will not be forced to use the system" which VM have twice said to me.

Time to demand clarification.
as iv already said way back, after a mear 10 minutes logical thought, there is only one way any of this can be done legally, and its not good for the (like-)Phorm profit model.

there is no Opt-out model that can work ,OR an Opt-In model other than the one below,while they are rapeing the world wide websites for part of their pirated datasets for profit...with layer7 kit installed and based from inside the EU given the existing UK/EU laws .


theres ONLY one single Option that is viable from a fully legal POV, and thats the old 'walled garden' approach, as in, everyone must opt-in to it if they so choose after informed consent.and their going to want their wad/slice of the cake for any such use of their data copyright if they have any sense at all.....

and that includes the websites they intend rapeing for data as well as the user , then anything inside the internal walled garden can not escape ,and more importantly almost nothing can get inside.

i say almost nothing as its possible some users and websites might take outside content and place it inside the wall but thats another story and doesnt concern us as yet......
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