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Old 20-04-2008, 14:54   #4212
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by tdadyslexia View Post
Why should we contact BT, and waste our time?
It was more BT's time I was hoping to waste. After all - many here have devoted hours to convincing our ISPs that this Phorm/Webwise malarkey has to stop. I know I have. When I told BT they simply did not have my consent to monitor anyone's data exchange with my sites, they agreed to list the sites. If many millions of website owners all emailed a similar request to members of BT management I think they'd notice, and it would inconvenience BT a lot more than it would inconvenience the website owners individually.
My position is that if BT want to make ill-prepared statements and expose themselves to this sort of stupidity, I am very happy to help them receive the consequences of their rashness. And having to answer a very large number of communications from Website owners in the next month could well get their attention.
It might even be that they begin to see the folly of their ways.

And of course we also need a lot of websites who simply quietly put a text notice on their sites stating that Webwise profiling is not allowed, and then monitor their logs to spot when Webwise does pass by, and then report the matter to the relevant body (which body that would be is still being clarified by good folks here).

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Originally Posted by bigbadcol View Post
Who do I contact at BT to have my sites excluded?

I do not want my sites being used to profit anybody. I do not have and never will have adverts on my site. I do not want Phorm to profit by profiling my work and and using it for profit.

Thanks

col
Well you could try the lady doing the media appearances for BT in recent news stories - Emma Sanderson. The standard for emailing a BT executive is firstnameDOTlastnameATbtDOTcom

If you browse through the BT Beta forum threads here you could pick up a few more managerial monikers

http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/th...art=0&tstart=0
http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/th...=2615&tstart=0
http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/th...=3152&tstart=0

I'd be interested to know how you get on.

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Originally Posted by JohnHorb View Post
Do you think 'they' would tell us if there was?
BT have 'fessed up to 2 secret trials so far which they claim to have been legal. Others who were monitored during the trials and who suffered browser hijacks are consulting solicitors.

The latest BT trial was supposed to have started in March and is constantly being delayed- which greatly encourages me, because I think they are struggling to find a legal model even for the trial, given the latest pronouncements from ICO and Home Office etc.I think they are now running a bit scared - making confident PR pronouncements, and pushing back the start date of the trials indefinitely.

They have promised to announce the start of the trials in the BT Beta forums, so if they keep their promise, we can let you know. Unfortunately experience does not give confidence, in the BT promises department.
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