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Old 17-04-2008, 23:50   #3926
Hank
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Chroma View Post
Long time lurker, 1st time poster.

Not meaning to get off topic here in any regard but i find it reminiscant of the largest company on the face of the earth [who] wished to build a store in the district of california and was met with a less than warm response from the community.</offtopic>
Yep, off topic, but you make a good point in one way. However I would say that interestingly, that large company you refer to has done an awful lot of good as well as lost battles it has gone into which it underestimated. Like the 3 or 4 biggest players in the UK, they have fans and they don't, they have people asking, "Why can't we have X brand supermarket near us?" And others say, "We don't want X near us." It would be wrong to suggest that the company you mention have not made goods and services cheaper (accepting challenges on ethics which are sometimes found in all companies including the retailers in the UK which are 5th or 6th biggest so it's not just the big boys). They are primarily responsible for maintaining lower prices in the retail industry at times of inflation/credit crunch (like now in the US & UK). And posting links to films sponsored by those who are also having their pockets lined by those against them... well, all I'm saying is, it's harder for those at the top to stay there because they are an easier target. So to anyone who might take that on face value... don't believe the hype.

On Phorm, it's not WM trying to open a new general merchandise store. This is very different. The type of store Phorm wants to open is where they put YOU on the shelf and sell you to the highest bidder. That is not democratisation of products (making them more affordable for the masses, taking a lower gross profit and selling lots) - oh no, this is not about democracy AT ALL.

We agree on so much apart from the supermarket stuff (let's continue that off line if needed - you can PM me if you want) and here's where I have got to on Phorm and comms with people:

- Email to the Labour MP on the Non-Exec board of BT - Replied, taking comments on board and will discuss with colleagues in government and BT

- Email to my MP - replied, waiting for detail response from Home Office Minister (that'll be interesting reading when it comes in!)

- Earl Of Northesk - I wrote expressing thanks and support, but did state that I understood he is not an MP (they often have no secretary, offices or team to deal with replies etc)

- Repsonse from BT - pretty standard as you would expect although others who have had the standard response a few days after mine had a few lines of different text due to issues with what they were saying originally being slightly bending the truth (shock horror!)

Post when you get resonses, I'll do the same and we can compare...

Hank