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Originally Posted by The Jackal
Seriously I'm just trying to weed out the specifics of why you lot are so anti-phorm and imo it's down to different opinions with the two clans being seperated by
[1] Those who dislike the idea of ISPs profiting off their back.
[2] Those who think this tracks everything they do.
Personally clan[1] know what they are talking about and I'm all for their cause. Those in group [2] need some education on the subject.
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I don't see two clans at all. I see lots of people with lots of valid concerns, some shared, some not. All keen to see Phorm stopped.
It sounds like you've got a good handle on [1]. That applies both to web users, and web site owners too.
Wrt [2] I think you might benefit from a glance at Phorms DPA registration, esp purpose 2 (concerning personal and financial data stored, sources & destinations, sales to traders in personal information, and the 'world wide' transfers). (see
www.ico.gov.uk for details of Phorms registration).
You don't need a DPA registration if you don't store personal data.
So wrt [2] I think people do have a point in that Phorm have the technology, the means, and the express provision to do what is described. Even if they are not doing it right now. And I sincerely hope they never will.
There is also a national security concern too. Should this type of equipment ever have been installed in secret at the heart of the UK's ISP network, using closed source software supplied from Russia, allegedly using DNS servers in China, without at least advising people (like Police, Judges, Lawyers, Doctors, Military Personnel) so that they could take additional security measures if required?
And apparently it was installed without a contract of supply? (because Phorm publically denied having a contract with BT in 2007 after the trials had started).
If of course there
was a contract to supply BT with Phorm in 2006/07, then there is also a question of insider trading. Because Phorm's CEO told the public there was no contract.
There is so much wrong with Phorm I could bore you for days. And I probably am. So I'll stop.
Pete.