I have sent this reply to Simon.
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Hello Simon,
Sadly what has been used from this report are carefully selected sections that suit their fight to force this on us. As for informed consent they are passing this off as a security feature which it isn't really. With phorm MD being known as a spyware/adware developer known more for the reputation of the worst toolkit spyware to try to remove.
They quote the homeoffice as saying it is not against RIPA, the method they are trying to bring this in and what has already happened seems to say they are not bothered on legalities. I draw your attention to something going on in Manchester which if true all the data was acquired without informed consent of the customers. We know BT have completed two sets of trials which has gathered data from thousands of their customers.
quoted from http://www.how-do.co.uk/north-west-m...-200804142351/
" Phorm has initially populated the OIX with data gathered from BT, Virgin and Carphone Warehouse on users’ internet browsing habits. Many observers believe this is a step too far in terms of compromising privacy issues. In addition, there are apparently issues being vociferously debated in digital chat rooms about whether BT misled users about the trials they conducted with the company last year."
Also confirmed by Bt http://www.ispreview.co.uk/news/EkplEZZuukribeoCYc.html
"We confirmed in our 2006 Financial Statement that we had concluded the trial announced on 19 July 2006 and were about to start a larger trial in 2007. In reality, the 2007 test was actually smaller than was planned at the point this statement was issued. At its peak, it involved tens of thousands of users for a couple of days, not the several hundred thousand as anticipated."
This data was not gathered from customers by informed consent so this should be investigated by the government, also what is more worrying is this system has the ability to totally log everything from IP numbers. Many people visit online their own webspaces that contain private areas that are only accessible if the link is passed from family member to family member this information is personal data phorm will read this and log it. Members of the general public cannot afford licenses to use https for this type of family personal data. Now tell us how phorm intend to protect our online personal data when it logs it for the one person you wouldn't give a link to to read. I actually have copies of my family tree online not for public view but because a few members of the family are working on it together and it is easier to keep it collated and up to date, this can identify us all and phorm can access it. there was a case of a person in America who was supposed to not be able to be identified but from her clicks they managed to identify her name and give her address shows this system can and will fail but by that time it will be too late for thousands of unaware members of the public.
The ISPs are passing this of as an anti phishing security which there are many freely available over the internet without phorm, when it is phishing itself to target adverts to the customer.
I sit here a very disappointed member of the UK public and fear that 90% of the public who are not totally aware of the technical data or the fact this program could log secrets and let them out to the highest bidder. The very people who are supposed to protect us from this type of thing are themselves led blindly into the path of thinking this is safe and good.
There are many trying to get the message over what phorm can do to members of the general public we all feel the government could help in this by doing an inquirey into the illegal gathering of customers clicks by BT and now possibly talktalk and Virgin Media.
Regards
Florence
Again all responses will be posted on cableforum virgin media and phorm thread.
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As for Simon's Email address I spotted it on the document he had sent to phorm that is online if you would like his email addy it is there or pm me
for the quicker route I would rather not post it on the public forums.