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Old 15-04-2008, 00:21   #3328
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by eastbourne View Post
This is my first posting.
I am not totally clear of all the issues here, however, I would like somebody to answer the following questions if they can please.

1 If my internet usage is to be spied on and information given randomly (this is my gist of the situation) whats to stop phorm from accessing any of my banking or personal details used on line for purchasing etc?

2 I have heard the the US may pull the plug on UK internet providers using Phorm. Will I still be able to access my MSN boards, many of which I use for my hobbies or for health support?
3 Does anybody have a list of broadband providers who will definately not be using phorm?

I may need to get rid of Virgin quite soon

Eastbourne
Welcome to the forum, Eastbourne. As I understand it, banking and credit card details almost always use encryption (although a lot of forms for other purposes do not) and we are told this is foolproof. But the Phorm programmers are former members of Russia's Lebedev Institute which is a world-leader expert in cryptography. And who would be in a better position than Phorm's programmers, and VM's staff, to get into our encrypted data?

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Originally Posted by Bonglet View Post
Its here under 80/20's ethics and principles of engagment alexander

http://www.8020thinking.com/ethics.html

This applies equally to misrepresentation of the view of organizations to which 80/20 employees are affiliated.

We will disengage from any relationship where the client appears to be manipulating our involvement or our advice for ulterior motives.
I suppose BT isn't their client, so BT's appropriation of PI's reputation to serve its own PR ends doesn't appear to be one of these cases. Unless, of course, Phorm wrote or prompted the BT press release - in which case that would be manipulation by 80/20's client for ulterior motives.

Tellingly:

"From April 2008, we will do our best to ensure that all our client contracts will contain the following provisions:

Any instance of deception or dishonesty by an 80/20 client during the course of our work will result in the termination of that relationship.
We will disengage from any relationship where the client appears to be manipulating our involvement or our advice for ulterior motives. ..."

Why "from April 2008"? And why will they only "do their best"? If clients won't accept a term as basic as this, just say "No". That's what having business ethics means.
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