[Pasanonic]

See, this is what happens in the hothouse. Phorm isn't a strategic partner, B-M is. How many of you have actually read through the 80/20 site?

I have.

As for accusations that we formed 80/20 especially for Phorm, please get a life. Phorm is a middle size startup. If we're to make an impression in the corporate privacy world we have to go well beyond that, which is what we intend to do. Have you looked at our privacy courses? Other clients? Our own plan for funding developing countries?

Inference is that I don't have a life. I have a very rich life thank you sir in so much that I have been semi-retired for 7 years now and am in my 40's. My life is such that I don't see this issue interfering in anything I might normally do. I implied that you have started up the company with the Phorm contract in the bag. You had something going I don't doubt. If I had started my business with no prospective clients I expect I'd still be working for less than I'm worth for someone else. I'm aware of your client list that you say you acquired 'within weeks'. New business ventures in a relatively untried sector don't miraculously hit the ground running.

I'm sure this issue and Phorm are hugely important to all of you, but please don't assume that I or 80/20 see it as the Great Armageddon. There are critically important issues of the gravest magnitude out there, some - in many countries - involving life and death situations because of intrusion into personal information by authorities.

Hear Hear.
But what does this have to do with us or 80/20 Thinking? Those would be matters for a privacy rights organisation such as Liberty or the European civil liberties network and not those of a company whose mission is to improve consumer trust for anyone who hires them.

I thought engaging on this forum was the right thing to do, but in between abusive and hostile posts, conspiracy theories, groundless accusations, spurious attacks and absolute misrepresentation of some facts I'm starting to have my doubts. My apologies to those of who who have been civil.

I'm sorry if I personally have offended you with any of my comments. I know I can be brusque, especially when I'm being led around the houses. This would probably be the best place for you to have these conversations however you surely are not so naive as to think that on any public forum, no matter how knowledgeable some members are, that there will always be an element that will attack you?

I've tried not to say anything today that I did not know as fact and even my comment about the relationship between Phorm and yourselves was made clearly stating it as a personal opinion.

Once again, sorry you've had a bad day. I still don't wish to be hostile or abusive towards you but it is difficult to always express sentiment on a forum whilst maintaining ones stance.

Regards

Craig.