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Old 13-04-2008, 18:53   #3116
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Bonglet View Post
Ahaaa caught in the act i think heres the one knew i'd find it somewhere

* Phorm now has 5 PR teams.
Citigate,
Freud,
John Stonborough,
Burson-Marsteller <--- parent company of 80/20,
and its own "small" in-house team.

So all of you guys going to this meeting *cough PR STUNT of the highest order* be sure to know that all there have deals tied with phorm so expect them to drift around the law and order aspects and spend nearly all of it with promoting how good phorm is and why we should have it thrust upon adding latency to netowrks as well as be the most intrusive piece of kit ever thought of by any ex spyware company.
Having read this thread for some time I thought it was quite clear that the meeting was for and on behalf of Phorm as a part of their ongoing efforts to educate academics and interested parties so that they might then become 'on side'
There is nothing wrong with this, nor is it much of a stunt. It's good business practise if you can be confident of your business model. It can however backfire in a humongous way.

This is why it is important that we ( I say we and I know we are nothing more than a loosely connected group of dissenters right now ) have intelligent, informed and rational advocates at the meeting to ensure that it does not become the PR whitewash that may have been originally intended.

You have to be fair to Phorm Inc. and its representatives. They have every right to do this and if they can convince people that this is their means to transparency then it makes good sense.

I would expect anyone in our camp to ensure before the meeting starts that all parties on any committee including the chair declare their interests in the minutes. This is why it is important that academic and informed people are there to speak. I was reading with horror about masks and publicity stunts to gain attention. This is far from the way to manage things and no less of a 'stunt' than people are complaining about.

Which I forgot to ask. Will there be minutes on public record?
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