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Old 12-04-2008, 16:12   #289
supremus
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Re: All Chipped Cable Boxes Going Down

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Originally Posted by Russ B View Post
We've made our position very clear on this. We will not allow the discussion of how to 'chip' or 'clone' equipment, or the discussion which would give anyone the know-how to obtain services without paying for them. We're not stupid, we know that if people want to do this then the information is out there which will enable them.

If someone is intent on this sort of thing then I suggest they go to one of the other forums which allow such discussion.

Sometimes people post 'hints' on how to do it and what equipment to use - we will not allow this, neither will we permit "PM me for further details" types of discussion.

We're not out to be little hitlers or anything like that but we have some straightforward forum rules which we expect everyone to abide by.

Yes there is often discussion about illegally downloaded music etc but equally we do not allow discussion of "how and where".

Hope that clarifies things.
Yes, that's perfectly understandable. I was just curious about some clarification on the various issues, particularly in the context of my claim that piracy doesn't have an effect on legal subscribers in terms of bandwidth used for things like VOD services, which seemed to be a cornerstone of the "piracy is bad because..." argument. As I said, I wasn't looking for a how-to or even the mentioning of particular brands of boxes, just to fill my little information on the subject in the broadest possible terms.

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Originally Posted by shawty View Post
But havent you just answered our questions in this post that yes they do have better facilities to catch people. I dont know how it works, but if you were to say give Virgin the offending post and IP address, can they not work from there with their better facilities.
The forums terms and conditions ensure the users' privacy. CF would leave themselves open to legal problems, if they were to hand them over to a 3rd party. Rules like that work both to protect the users and the forum. If Virgin had evidence that CF were turning a blind eye to illegal activity, such as trading, through their forum, they would have a good case for insisting the records be handed over, or if CF were seen to support it, they could even obtain a police warrant to confiscate CF's servers and logs, but discussion of illegal activity is not illegal.
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