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Old 09-04-2008, 21:33   #2777
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter View Post
So now Kent is redefining the concept of yes as anything that isn't a resounding no. And this is a company that wants people to talk to it one to one?

The public meeting concerns me some. I can't help but think there will be lots of Phorm drones there lapping up every word Ertregrul says. Will Dr Clayton and those who oppose Phorm be given the same chances to speak as Phorm? Will it be recorded and posted in full for those who can't get there to see?

Part of me thinks Phorm has got something lined up here and their PR drones will be there in force.

Now if I was the paranoid type I'd start to think along the lines of the "Anonymous" organisation who protest against the Church of Scientology. A lot of them wear V masks to mask their identity...

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I'm getting a 502 error on there too. My comment is:

"Hi Rory, as you may be aware if you've been following any of the various discussions about Phorm, the opt-out "presented" by Phorm is based on a cookie. This means that although you've said "no" to receiving adverts your web activity is still mirrored to Phorm's systems.

Many people have made it clear to Virgin Media (of whom I am currently a customer) that an opt-out has to guarantee that their data goes nowhere near Phorm's systems.

Mr Etregrul's assertion that "neutral polling that this is something they [customers] want." is complete and utter hogwash. Internet advertising is a bugbear, a nuisance and is tolerated with a heavy heart by many.

Solutions are available which minimise the amount of advertising a user is exposed to and I use a number of them myself. The difference it makes in the speed of a page downloading is considerable.

Mr Etregrul's logic is flawed and is that of a spin doctor trying to fight off a growing resistance.

Check The Register's ever growing report file on Phorm at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/29/phorm_roundup/

Phorm is (in my view) illegal and offers nothing of value to the broadband customer. I will not be opting in and I will be advising everyone I know to have nothing to do with Phorm."
This is why it is so important to get as many people there as possible. Dr Richard Clayton is heavily out numbered on the list of speakers, he needs our support as much as we need to raise our own issues. I would be deeply disappointed if after all the work over the past 2 months, no-one in the area can muster up the motivation to attend.

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