Cable Forum - View Single Post - Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

mark777 · 09-04-2008, 00:13

I thought I would put this in the record. The reason I do is because it involves a question about cookies that was raised to VM before the full extent of the cookie involvement was realised.

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Sent 02/04/2008 to VM as a complaint

I have been keeping a dozen or so friends, family and collegues, up to date with the Phorm scandal.

Although most are in a position to go quickly to Sky/ADSL, a couple are
tied to contracts that will mean they are likely to have to stay with Virgin Media for a few months (I've explained to them about the small print getting changed).

One did, however, ask a good question. "Can I still trust PC-Guard when
Virgin Media becomes a spyware company". Now I did explain that Virgin
Media were not officially becoming a spyware company, just entering into
partnership with one, but the question is still valid.

Will PC-Guard protect, for example, from tampering with the webwise
opt-out cookie? I suspect you will apply commercial pressure on the
suppliers of PC-Guard to ignore this?

Anyway, if you could take the time to answer this, on a day when you could be mopping up BT customers instead of going down with them, I would be grateful.

BTW - worried about RIPA? Have you or haven't you?

__________________________________________________ ____________________
Received from VM Webteam 7/4/2008 am

Blah ...

Thank you for your e-mail dated 2 April 2008 regarding Phorm.

At the moment we are still only in the early stages of discussion, there
is still a lot of work to do in evaluating various aspects of any
possible deployment. This includes how PC Guard and other Anti Virus
programs will work. (my emphasis)
You can be assured that PC Guard will continue to provide the same level
of protection as before.

In regards to RIPA, we believe the home office have said it is legal,
providing the user consents to it.
Details of the memo can be found here: http://cryptome.org/ho-phorm.htm

Before anything is released onto our network we will be making sure that
all our customers are informed, and how they can opt in or opt out,
whichever is decided and also that we are conforming to the Data
Protection Act, RIPA, OFCOM and our own strict guidelines are followed.

Thank you for contacting us.
If you have further queries regarding this matter or any other issue,
please use the link provided below:

www.virginmedia.com/contact

Blah ...

09-04-2008, 00:13	#2670
mark777 Inactive Join Date: Mar 2008 Services: 0.4 Mbps BB + Phone Posts: 447	Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] I thought I would put this in the record. The reason I do is because it involves a question about cookies that was raised to VM before the full extent of the cookie involvement was realised. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sent 02/04/2008 to VM as a complaint I have been keeping a dozen or so friends, family and collegues, up to date with the Phorm scandal. Although most are in a position to go quickly to Sky/ADSL, a couple are tied to contracts that will mean they are likely to have to stay with Virgin Media for a few months (I've explained to them about the small print getting changed). One did, however, ask a good question. "Can I still trust PC-Guard when Virgin Media becomes a spyware company". Now I did explain that Virgin Media were not officially becoming a spyware company, just entering into partnership with one, but the question is still valid. Will PC-Guard protect, for example, from tampering with the webwise opt-out cookie? I suspect you will apply commercial pressure on the suppliers of PC-Guard to ignore this? Anyway, if you could take the time to answer this, on a day when you could be mopping up BT customers instead of going down with them, I would be grateful. BTW - worried about RIPA? Have you or haven't you? __________________________________________________ ____________________ Received from VM Webteam 7/4/2008 am Blah ... Thank you for your e-mail dated 2 April 2008 regarding Phorm. At the moment we are still only in the early stages of discussion, there is still a lot of work to do in evaluating various aspects of any possible deployment. This includes how PC Guard and other Anti Virus programs will work. (my emphasis) You can be assured that PC Guard will continue to provide the same level of protection as before. In regards to RIPA, we believe the home office have said it is legal, providing the user consents to it. Details of the memo can be found here: http://cryptome.org/ho-phorm.htm Before anything is released onto our network we will be making sure that all our customers are informed, and how they can opt in or opt out, whichever is decided and also that we are conforming to the Data Protection Act, RIPA, OFCOM and our own strict guidelines are followed. Thank you for contacting us. If you have further queries regarding this matter or any other issue, please use the link provided below: www.virginmedia.com/contact Blah ...