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popper · 26-03-2008, 04:54

i find it very odd that theres been no Phorm copy after the holiday, and so far nothing on the wires other than that distastful spoof and a re-link of an old Guardian post, very odd indeed?.

on a general note this blog has some interesting legal points.
http://www.tjmcintyre.com/
taken from a users v ISP/Phorm POV rather than this ISP being forced to give up Safe harbor and monitor under court order, the loss of the safe harbor

given that the Phorm signed ISPs, have freely entering into this contract and are (or propose to)collecting, selecting, and modifying information to pass onto Phorm for/to comercially profit, are they infact giving up their Safe Harbor protection rights.

any lawyers reading want to finally give their personal comments on this matter?

also has anyone (i assume BT users first, as they already had the Phorm trial) considered the injunction options open to you from the small claims courts?

Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Sabam v. Tiscali (Scarlet) - English translation now available

entry looks interesting

"Scarlet wrongfully considers that this injunction would result in its loss of the safe harbor from liability contained in Article 12 of Directive 2000/31 ... that benefits a provider of mere conduit or access to the internet conditioned upon it neither selecting nor modifying the information being transmitted;

That in accordance with “whereas” clause 45 of Directive 2000/31, “the limitations of the liability of intermediary service providers established in this Directive do not affect the possibility of injunctions of different kinds; such injunctions can in particular consist of orders by court . . .

requiring the termination or prevention of any infringement, including the removal of illegal information or the disabling of access to it.”

---------- Post added at 04:54 ---------- Previous post was at 03:58 ----------

i wonder if Virgin Media's new STB will have something like comcasts box.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...y-wants-spy-tv
Comcast denies it wants to spy on TV viewers

Computer users also not targeted
By Egan Orion: Tuesday, 25 March 2008, 5:22 PM

"
CABLE GIANT Comcast is backpedalling furiously away from the unguarded revelation by its Senior Vice President of User Experience, Gerald Kunkel....

The bombshell was dropped by Chris Albrecht at newteevee.com a week ago after interviewing Comcast's Kunkel at the Digital Living Room conference in San Francisco. There, he said Comcast is "experimenting with different camera technologies built into devices so it can know who's in your living room."
...
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26-03-2008, 04:54	#1746
popper Inactive Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,270	Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] i find it very odd that theres been no Phorm copy after the holiday, and so far nothing on the wires other than that distastful spoof and a re-link of an old Guardian post, very odd indeed?. on a general note this blog has some interesting legal points. http://www.tjmcintyre.com/ taken from a users v ISP/Phorm POV rather than this ISP being forced to give up Safe harbor and monitor under court order, the loss of the safe harbor given that the Phorm signed ISPs, have freely entering into this contract and are (or propose to)collecting, selecting, and modifying information to pass onto Phorm for/to comercially profit, are they infact giving up their Safe Harbor protection rights. any lawyers reading want to finally give their personal comments on this matter? also has anyone (i assume BT users first, as they already had the Phorm trial) considered the injunction options open to you from the small claims courts? Wednesday, February 13, 2008 Sabam v. Tiscali (Scarlet) - English translation now available entry looks interesting "Scarlet wrongfully considers that this injunction would result in its loss of the safe harbor from liability contained in Article 12 of Directive 2000/31 ... that benefits a provider of mere conduit or access to the internet conditioned upon it neither selecting nor modifying the information being transmitted; That in accordance with “whereas” clause 45 of Directive 2000/31, “the limitations of the liability of intermediary service providers established in this Directive do not affect the possibility of injunctions of different kinds; such injunctions can in particular consist of orders by court . . . requiring the termination or prevention of any infringement, including the removal of illegal information or the disabling of access to it.” ---------- Post added at 04:54 ---------- Previous post was at 03:58 ---------- i wonder if Virgin Media's new STB will have something like comcasts box. http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...y-wants-spy-tv Comcast denies it wants to spy on TV viewers Computer users also not targeted By Egan Orion: Tuesday, 25 March 2008, 5:22 PM " CABLE GIANT Comcast is backpedalling furiously away from the unguarded revelation by its Senior Vice President of User Experience, Gerald Kunkel.... The bombshell was dropped by Chris Albrecht at newteevee.com a week ago after interviewing Comcast's Kunkel at the Digital Living Room conference in San Francisco. There, he said Comcast is "experimenting with different camera technologies built into devices so it can know who's in your living room." ... "