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The technology has been around for ages, as well as arguments about this sort of problem and sensationalist screams of "OMFG WHERE ARE MY PRIVACIES?!?!!".
I remember a certain amount of leaked/lost data by AOL a while back.
Use google. You'll have a harder time showing it hasn't happened.
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You claimed that other companies were "doing" what Phorm intend -- not that the technology has been available.
AIUI, the AOL (and NetFlicks) data was from people *visiting* their sites -- completely and utterly different to Phorm's plans.
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Most do to some extent. As do many particular companies with their own programs. Which in turn backs up my first reply above. There are thousands of different technologies available to monitor your traffic. Legal and otherwise.
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I'll ask again: Show me *one* ISP that collects and analyses the kind of data that the Phorm/WebWise profiler will be capable of?
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"but Phorm's WebWise profiling server is there to *collect* and *analyse* my browsing data"
- where do you think they're getting this data? Why make a deal with an ISP if they're not actually providing anything?
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VM will be obtaining the data from my clickstream -- a completely new process afaik.
If you've got evidence of other ISPs currently doing this, I'm sure many of their users (and probably the Information Commissioner) would appreciate it.
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You're expressing your own views, as are many others. That is all. You're not spearheading the revolution, you're complaining and whining. It may or may not have any effect at all. It'd be better sharing different ways of working round this. Rather than screaming and hoping someone else will do it for you.
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You haven't noticed that there's significant ongoing research into solutions?
You haven't noticed my nick in threads contributing to that research on at least half a dozen sites and forums?
Haven't looked very hard, have you?
"Spearheading the revolution"?
"Complaining and whining"?
"Screaming and hoping someone else will do it for you"?
Kindly substantiate just one of those before I declare you a troll.
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"If you want to roll over and let Phorm and VM drastically alter the basis of the internet"
As if that is a useful contribution.
It's exaggeration, and unnecessary.
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As you evidently believe that ISPs already do everything that Phorm/WebWise will be capable of when operational, there's no point debating how releasing our clickstreams for exploitation changes the status quo.
Don't suppose you're contracted by Phorm to disrupt us, by any chance?
No?
Then drop your anonymity (heh, it doesn't seem to mean much to you!) and explain how you're contributing or your motivation for not doing so.
