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Originally Posted by Jayceef1
I have never said that I dismiss peoples genuine concerns or argue that black is white. Again you misinterpret. Just that people should base their concerns on facts rather than unfounded speculation of what it will do or what might happen in the future. A lot is of this is based on the BT implementation which is far more advanced that the others. CPW look like they will implement differently and VM could do different still. When we "know" exactly how it will work then you can make the judgement call.
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Well we're not going to
"know" exact details until Phorm is operational and I have a suspicion that it might be a bit tricky to get it changed then!
What will you do if Phorm/VM decide at some time in the future to start quietly recording further behavioural data (per the patent)?
Do you think they'll give you an opt-out?
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I know some will say not at any cost but others may not providing the safeguards are adequate or they put their own solution in place and some will not care at all.
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It's quite simple: should ISPs (and thereby, unknown third parties) be permitted to obtain, analyse and profit from our private browsing data?
The spirit, if not the actual letter, of data protection and privacy laws says it's not allowed without full and express consent (which we can't give because we don't "know" what they'll do tomorrow) but you seem to think we should just let them implement it before protesting?
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Unless it is ruled out completely by the European commisison then it is highly likely that it will happen in some form whatever anyone thinks and most other ISPs are likely to follow suit. I am not for it but it may be something that we have to live with for cheap broadband.
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I don't receive "cheap broadband" -- I pay well over comparable "cheap" ADSL offers because I want a reliable and secure connection. If VM won't provide it, then I'll be switching back to a security-conscious ADSL provider at considerably higher costs.
If you want to roll over and let Phorm and VM drastically alter the basis of the internet that's fine by me, just stop spouting your defeatist nonsense at folks that don't.