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Originally Posted by Chris T
Oh, no you don't.
Not true. A child could get adult adverts if any other user of the computer was a user of adult sites - assuming the computer only has a single login. And I, for one, am not reassured by Phorm's assertion, in their FAQs, that most people have separate logins, which would prevent that from happening.
Even if it is true, *most* is not the same as *all*. Phorm are knowingly exposing children to adverts for porn.
There, add that to your list of hysterical anti-phorm postings. It's a corker.  |
The Phorm ElReg interview states that porn (and gambling) are not one of the catagories (at the moment?). Being as Porn is one of the most profitable internet industries is that really going to remain over time. This system could target sites down to peoples tastes in porn (as long as there are over 5,000 of them).
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03...gess_ertegrul/
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The channels are controlled in the content they can have. We don't have adult advertising, no medical channel, no tobacco, no gambling. The channels are also designed so they always match a minimum number of unique users - 5,000. A channel has to be sufficiently broad so that it doesn't just reduce to one or two users.
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I would think that medical and tobacco and gambling are probably the three most profitable parts of the internet.
All the interview highlights to me is that a system that can read all data on the isp is being created but we are nice people that have coded it in a way that means we won't look for bad things. Code changes over time, as do companies and peoples strategies and whats to say in time what was originally excluded becomes included, accidentially or intentionally?
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Originally Posted by Jayceef1
Yes but that is all ifs, buts and maybes. And you could say that about any website that the government or whoever wanted information from. All I am asking is people stick to facts and not conjecture or in some cases pure make believe.
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As Chris said part of the understanding process.
Phorm becomes a man in the middle of the process. At the moment my internet traffic goes to my CM and gets sent to my ISP who read the headers on the packets of IP data and send it on it's way.
What this is proposing is to read the contents of those packets and those you get back.
To compare this to the postal system, this would be the same as the postman picking up your mail from your house (as he does in the US), instead of delivering it based on the address (headers) on the front, opening it and reading the contents and making a note that No. 27 has sent off a request for a brochure to a luxury car company (which could not be worked out from the PO Box address on the outside of the letter). Passing that information on so you also get information back from many other car companies. There are laws about opening mail and people get sent to jail for it.
To compare to the phone system. The phone network gets a header of information (a phone number) to route your call to the recipient. In Phorms world they will then listen to the conversation and based on that I guess call you with appropriately targeted telesales calls. Perhaps you were chatting to a friend about how bad your VM BB connection is, now you will get calls from Sky, BE, Demon etc. The payback is that if you misdial the number and someone else picks up and pretends to be who you were speaking to (reminds me of when I was a kid, my friend had a phone number similar to the local civic halls box office, we used to take ticket bookings all the time
), they will jump in and tell you you are not talking to the box office but some silly teenager.
Now I accept that my employer has a right to do this to protect their reputation and meet their regulatory requirements, however why does my home ISP, my home phone company, my home mailman.