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Originally Posted by Nugget
Governance may be on the slide, but we all have it our power to do something about it - an election is due next year, so we can vote 'em out. Unfortunately, the electorate in this country suffer from collective apathy (what is it? 40-odd per cent turnout?), so the old saying comes in - if you can't be bothered to vote, don't expect to be allowed to whine about it...
Mind you, at least we have a choice of who to vote for here  |
It was just over 60% turnout at the last election. And apathy does unfortunately rule. But I don't think you can blame those who didn't vote too much. They don't see much of a difference in what's on offer ...
"they're all the same" is the common excuse. And there is a lot of truth in that.
We need a less naive, more enquiring electorate, and they need to hear an honest political debate. There's not much chance of that happening.
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
No i am not saying it will help immigration but that is a constant want from the people and it won't hurt will it??. While i don't like the invasions of privacy that seem to happen everyday being realistic what can we do to stop them when many of us are a bit hypocritical about it. I mean we shout and scream about privacy then sign upto a storecard for incentives so shopping is not private anymore. As for losing the data if you had read what i said i would not in anyway trust this shambles of a government to have an ID card. I want to be convinced that if and when it comes in we have the infrastructure and policy's in it's handling in place so that none of us need worry on that aspect.
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I don't think the invasion of privacy is worth that! And the difference between store cards and national ID cards is obvious, one is
voluntary and can be ended, and the other is not. The store card holder keeps his card for as long as it suits him. The
ID card holder keeps his card for as long as it suits the state.
I DID read what you had said. It just didn't seem to balance with your support for ID cards. And the question remains - Do you trust
future governments? That's important imo because once brought in, I would say there is no chance of getting rid of them. But if you are against ID cards until such a time that we have a trustworthy government, ok fine!