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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Sorry kronas I respect you a lot but I have to say this time you are talking rot...A hero is a hero is a hero whomever they are fighting for or protecting.Just because governments are crap at picking wars and what to defend does not make the men and women who end up doing the fighting any the less heroes.Plus going by your reasoning you would be saying that WW1 was a justified war when it was nothing but a futile exercise in wasting lives that blighted a whole generation to the point that we nearly failed to stand up to someone much worse.If WW1 hadn't taken place we might not have had to fight WW11.
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wars will happen irrespective of whether they are right or wrong, but sometimes you have to think about the justification of a war and whether your indivdual participation in something is for the best or worst of YOUR country, if your fighting a war in another country for unjustifiable reasons then i dont see how someone can be displayed as a hero, if your going to follow the definition that those in a war are heroes then everybody is classed as a hero no matter what they do, what about soldiers who rape, kill, innocents, your going to say 'the war got to him/her' let them fade away ?
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
No war is ever justified but neither is sitting back and doing nothing.Also picking wars on the premise that we shouldn't fight to protect resources as well as to protect lives is nonsense.Neither reason is a good enough reason to be fighting IF negotiations can achieve the same result.
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sometimes you HAVE to go to war granted, obviously civility dictates you should not but you have to do whats right, even if your resources are stretched..
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
BUT to say anyone who selflessly puts their lives on the line to serve their country is not a hero because you don't agree with the war is morally bankrupt.I may not approve of war but I would never say that those who fight don't deserve the epitaph of hero if they fight the wars that they have sworn to fight on behalf of the democratically elected government.
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im not disrespecting soliders who put their lives on the line, its the most unselfish thing to do, but again i personally draw a line on what is right and wrong in going to war for the merit of reasons, the media showed itself to push its own agenda with the harry thing as with any other government out there and ultimately it had to take an american media outlet to let it out!
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Originally Posted by danielf
History is written by those who win the war?
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history is written
by a war and those who are in it and the winner.