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Old 26-02-2008, 11:43   #22
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Re: Is it just me, or does anyone else think this country is totally **** now?

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Originally Posted by Bender View Post
i think the point is that you probably wouldn't be in so much debt if you lived elsewhere....
He would be in America, and a lot of other countrys. Further Education is not usually free.

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
It seems to me that most of the problems in this country are in large part due to the increasing demand for services by an increasing population. Immigration and longevity are both factors in that - it's just a pity HMG didn't consider those things when making some of their major decisions.
In this respect we should look how other countrys manage their health services, France for example have higher tax rates and spend more on their health service, yet you need to 'top-up' your coverage to get the full level of service we get with the NHS.

When you get seen by a GP you have to pay them yourself, and then fill in the paperwork and claim the expenses back.

America has a lot lower tax, but you need to pay medicial insurance yourself. Which is expensive, not least because of lawsuits against doctors which requires them to pass their high insurance costs down to the patients. The high cost leaves millions without any medicial insurance at all

We tend to idolise other systems, all of them have flaws. But in both cases we spend less on our health service (per gdp) and yet expect a much wider coverage that is also free

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Personally, I would like to see us develop a system closer to the French. Bring our spending in line with European Levels and offer a option to go private that is subsidizedby the government (thus freeing up more resources for the standard NHS)

So you have Private medicial insurance, but a lot of paid by the NHS. You simply pay a top-up and you can go private. The NHS has a easy load of cope with as level as increased investement, not all your contributions into the NHS are used against the medicial insurance so they still get *Some* of your money as well.

The Torys had a similer idea at the last election but it needs to be better implemented.
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