Hi Foreverwar, l have noted your comments, As l said that Pentonville does still have the gallows, but by now they will have large cobwebs round them, as they won't every be used again, the good thing about this country, is that you are innocent until proven guilty, by a court of law, to me there are too many people in prison, who should not be there, and they could do useful things in the community, there is a big difference, between us and the states, in UK, you have the Bailey, Crown Court, Mag Court, and Appeal Court, in the states, you have so many courts, and different charges, you can lose count, and yes there are more murders in the states, although they have the death penalty, but then in the states, if you get 50 years, that is what you do, it is very hard to get parole in the states, that is the big difference between us and USA, but l do accept your points, you are making
