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Originally Posted by Osem
Russ - you can try to worm out of what you've written in the past now but in reality it's all so much hot air with you isn't it. If Wales won anything of any significance by hook, crook, disputed call or whatever you certainly wouldn't be moaning about it would you?
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I haven't said you shouldn't be celebrating it.
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If Wales won the RUWC without scoring a try you wouldn't complain.
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No and you shouldn't either if England win
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The media were bigging England up were they? Show us all the pretournament headlines doing that then Russ.
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The media always placed England first when it comes to the rugby headlines. And when you say that's because more of the viewers/readers/listeners are English, does that mean us Welsh can therefore have a reduction in the licence fee/cost of papers?
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Even now you can't accept England played better than Australia - they didn't win by luck or by chance but by design. They destroyed Australia's forward effort and in so doing outplayed one of the favourites to win. No they didn't score tries but since when was that the only measure of beating another team?
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On Radio 2 this morning there were listeners bipping on about how England "totally dismantled" Australia. As you know, that was not the case. It was a historic victory alright, but not the whitewash so many people are trying to make out.
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When Wales have beaten England in the past by a penalty or drop goal late in the game did that fact negate their win in your mind?
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Yes - I'd rather Wales outclass and outplay their opponents when winning.
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How many teams past and present have deserved to win matches by a mile but not necessarily scored many more points than their opposition? When England destroyed Wales earlier this year did you give them any credit for all their tries?
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Of course not, that particular game was more a measure of how badly we'd sunk as opposed to any success on England's part.
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Nobody here is frightened of logical, reasoned debate about any of this but so much of what you write appears to boil down to petty almost childish envy.
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Really?
Why didn't Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea fans come on here and congratulate Man United on winning the premiership last season? Was that petty envy? Or just
sporting rivalry? Maybe you could consider that's what I'm displaying instead of taking silly pops at me.
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Despite England being classed as no hopers before the tournament and beating Australia fairly and squarely in a game totally controlled by England's forwards all you can muster is 'a win is a win' - Thank you so much for that - that's very magnanimous of you.  |
What do you want, blood?