[Neil]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Then go to Sky or FreeView

Ah the old "If you don't like it-go elsewhere" chestnut...

[QUOTE=orangebird]Good one, I noticed that too - you have a choice to get ntl dtv, but you must have the ntl phone line, or go to sky dtv, but you must have A N OTHER phone line - not much difference in choice to me?
Still a choice though-get all the feature that a BT line can offer, or an ntl phone line that pales in comparison-some choice that is!

Originally Posted by orangebird

Or you can go to FreeView.

You'd only have to do that because there is no choice from ntl.

Originally Posted by orangebird

Not really Neil, as

1) You still haven't addressed the fact (despite THREE members pointing out to you) that you can't get Sky without paying for a telehone line (regardless of supplier)

Yes I have! I have scknowledge that already, but as I said-Sky give you the choice of which Telco your DTV service plugs into & ntl don't.

Originally Posted by orangebird

2) this thread has bugger all to do with what you're arguing about.

I thought we were discusisng choice (or lack of it)

Originally Posted by orangebird

3) You omitted FACTS about what else you need to purchase in order to receive Skys DTV, and therefore did not do a fair comparison

No I didn't-read my post again-I have fully acknowledged that you need a phone line for Sky, & made a point that Sky don't force you to have a Sky phone line (therefore giving you choice)

Originally Posted by orangebird

4) I don't know what. I'm frankly bored of the same lame arguments. I have stated nothing but FACT and left nothing out at all, you have been very economic with the truth to suit yourself (ie to make ntl look bad).

What about the simple fact that ntl don't give you a choice of telco providers when you take their DTV product?