ntl always used to advertise their packs for the full price including the phone line. Sky then see fit to state that their packs are '£x amount, look how much cheaper than ntl we are (but we don't mention that that cost actually includes phone line rental too)........', then stick in little letters at the bottom of their t&c's about the fact you have to have a BT phone line for the first year to receive the service (at least - you have to have a phone line all the time if you want to receive all the interactive they offer), which effectively makes both deals the same price.
But, because of Skys underhand advertising, ntl are more are less now FORCED to advertise the costs for the services seperately (even though the DTV and phone are bundled), just so consumers can see the real picture. What's good for the goose...
