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Old 18-11-2004, 11:17   #20
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Re: Does ntl offer a viable product any more?

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Originally Posted by orangebird
What about Telewest upping their speeds AFTER ntl this time round? Care to give your opinion on that?
Certainly

ntl's initial speed increase came as a knee jerk reaction to TW's original speed increase, they haven't led the market here, they've just taken TW's idea & made it faster-not market leading IMO.

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Originally Posted by orangebird
Neil, you said that that interactive doesn't work, period. And it's not true, that's the point I was trying to make. I used the red button to vote on BB4. I also used the mutli screens for Tennis etc.
But could you if you wanted to? (no)

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Originally Posted by orangebird
Do I look lie the kind of girl that even wants to know if multi camera angles for Sky Sports in general??
No!

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Originally Posted by orangebird
Never looked TBH.
Perhaps you should try it.

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Originally Posted by orangebird
Not good enough Neil.
I though people were against naming ntl associates?
Whether you think it's good enough or not, I'm not gonna place those people's job's in jeopardy-you know as well as I do that ntl would probably sack them for disclosing confidential information, & that I am not prepared to do just to prove to you (anyone actually) that I know, sorry.

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Originally Posted by orangebird
Yes, I've seen the website for the 8 meg. But like I said before, why don't you show up all hte potential flaws of the deal, like you would with any ntl deal?
I thought I had-there are cureently exchanges that can't get it, but the 'coming soon' is a reality, not a figment of their imagination a la ntl.

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Originally Posted by orangebird
You can't compare Bulldog to ntl. The size of the company and the technology are completely different.
But we are talking about "Market Leaders" here in this discussion, & Bulldog are exactly that. I think they were the 1st ISP to install their own hardware in BT's exchanges, & offer 2 meg DSL, when the other DSL ISPs were waiting from the nod from BT-Now that's market leading!

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You don;t have to like ntl Neil, but at least be fair when you compare - which you so are not.
I don't agree-we are talking about market leading, & ntl are not that whatever way you look at it.

They followed TW's speeds increase, their DTV doesn't offer the functionality that Sky's does, they have only just got around to introducing Spam filters on their mail servers (when most other ISPs have had them for yonks), their email 'service' has been poor (to say the least!) for the best part of 18 months, their webspace package is poor compared to what most other ISPs offer (scripts etc)

That's not a market leader, & not a company that offers a viable product anymore-most other providsers offer far more for your money IMO.
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