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TW have a much smaller network and less customers, ntl has had problems with STBs that need changing to.
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Agreed-but if ntl were such "Market Leaders", they would have had this wrapped up by now surely?
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TW Copied ntls recent speed upgrades! 
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Not so I don't think you'll find.
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My ntl TV is better than Sky
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How?-Do you get
all the interactive feature that Sky Digital offers? Can you get a Sky + Equivalent?
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my ntl Phoneline is better than BT (no crackles that cant be fixed 'ever' apparently and this is the second BT line I have had with this problem)..............what you think on this is PURELEY a matter of opinion and nothing else.
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Fair enough.
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Functionality (usability) is a funny one to be suggested I would actually say there are sections of CR3 FAR more functional than the Sky Dodgyguide like Search and Scan, gaining info on programmes on later, ease of use for ordering PPV, mini tv in EPG instead of lift music, quick on off for Subtitiles. I agree Sky has a better EPG which personally I dont use either way, ntls is too slow, Skys has lift music and you miss watch you watching so essentially both are crap! id ratehr the TV Times. Sky does have some exclusive Interactive but nothing im going to lose sleep over at present.
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How does the fact that ntl don't offer what Sky do make them market leaders then?
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How do you know this, evidence please  ?
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As I said, it came from within ntl, & for that reason I can't/won't name names, sorry.
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Very large amount........nonsense!
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Not nonsense at all-4 million is a large amount by anyone's standards.
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UK Online say 4.4 million people have access to these speeds, even then its not garunteed past 2km from the exchange. I live 4km from one of these 'magical' exchanges and cant even recieve 1mb on ADSL because the line BT provide is crap and am unlikely to for the forseeable future........go figure! The day ADSL becomes market leading for me........is the day I eat my own hat!
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The fact that it's not available to you has no nearing on the fact that an 8 meg DSL product
is is still market leading.
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At least with ntl if I live on a digital part of their network I will get Broadband at/near to the speeds specified not some second rate 512k service im paying 1Mb prices for!
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Same as ADSL though-just because you can get it doesn't mean it will be up to scratch does it?
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However if you can get this mysterious product.........ie you live on the exchange or you can see it close by........go for it excellent price!!
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We agree!
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ntl is definately viable for me.........its still cheaper than the BT/Sky Equivilent
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I think we've been down this road before, & there's little/no difference in the package prices if you have BT line/Sky & an ntl line & Family Pack (for example)
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and better quality than I would be recieving. Hopefully it will become more viable when VOD is released as this means I can cancel Sky Movies as I always miss whatever I want to watch on there.
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You wouldn't miss it with Sky +! But it's ok as that's probably not a "market leading" product is it?
The original question was.....
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Does ntl offer a viable product any more?
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And I genuinely don't believe they do (compared to Sky) based on my reasoning above.