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Old 04-07-2007, 08:44   #171
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Re: Floods are a judgement on society, say bishops

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry View Post
Seriously Chris, what alternative "characters and situations" representative of "other things" could Jesus possibly have been referring to in that particular parable?

That particular parable is anything but a complex allegory - quite simply Jesus states that anyone who does not acknowledge him as their ruler should be brought to him (at whatever place he was at that time) and slain.

Black and white, advocating violence and slaughter - no complex allegory either used nor required.
I'm not trying to make out that it is complex allegory. If you re-read what I posted, you will see that I am saying that parables are not complex allegory because that would defeat their purpose.

The parable has a very simple meaning, and it is this:

The place Jesus is 'at the time' the parable speaks of, as you put it, is enthroned as king at the end of the age.

The passage begins in verse 11 by saying Jesus told the parable because people thought he was going to Jerusalem to set up his kingdom right there and then. Jesus, in verse 12, makes clear that these things are to take place after he has gone away and come back again.

At that point - after Jesus has gone away and come back again - there is judgement and banishment from God's presence in store for those who don't belong to him. In the parable this is depicted as being put to death before a king.

There really is nothing contentious about it. The fact that there will be judgement at the end of the age in no way affects the call for Jesus disciples here and now to be peaceful and non-violent.

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Yep i agree time to unsubscribe from this thread as well it is like the M$ and Apple rants you can never have a debate as there is always some entrenched belief of being right.
I wonder whether you consider your own beliefs to be entrenched?
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