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Originally Posted by Ramrod
It's actually quite a good summing up of the bishops stance (and by extension, the stance of the christian church) but since you can't counter that argument you are forced to dismiss it in that way.....
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Originally Posted by danielf
I guess I'm just a very quick thinker
Seriously, I don't claim to be an expert, and I value the dialogue. See where others are coming from and all that. I think a lot of interesting points were raised since this morning.
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Not being on this thread long enough to have read all the religious threads, I am not fully aware of the 'religious' bashing that has gone on here before I joined CF. I do think however that sometimes the religious elements here are to quick to dismiss points rasied by non religious members as being a case of 'baiting'.
I would say that the non religious (i.e non christians/muslims) do value the dialogue as Daniel says above, and sometimes they are dismissed without an argument or point of view which in my opinion can be very patronising.
But anyway, what do I know, I've only been here a while compared to the rest of you.
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Of course, the easiest answer to that dilemma is simply to acknowledge that man wasn't created in gods image but that the opposite is true. At a stroke, all the inconsistencies and dilemmas disappear.
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I was under the impression that man was created with its own will, which it then used to go against god's command (i.e Adam & Eve and the apple/serpent). Surely there is no/shouldn't be a dilemma.
Do what God prescribes and you should be ok, otherwise its the fires of Hell for you, unless God forgives you.
I know that simplifies it, but is that not why religion falls apart, when people try to make simple thinks overly complicated.