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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo
So, going by your examples above you have to marry someone outside your culture/religion/race to fully integrate? And the black person above has fully integrated unlike other races? Well not knowing how you are defining race, what about the black Jamaicans who are married to black people. Are they not of the same race as the woman in your example above? HAve they failed to integrate?
If a Pakistani muslim marries an English born white muslim (yes they do exist) has the asian person integrated, or failed to because he is still a muslim? Are converts to Islam born and bred in this country now not integrating anymore?
I think you are saying that non Christians should abandon their religious convictions if they want to integrate in this country? Is that right?
I think your reasoning and argument is totally differnt to Pierre's who makes some good points that can be discussed. Your views just often make me shake my head in disbelieve when I read them.
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo
So, going by your examples above you have to marry someone outside your culture/religion/race to fully integrate? And the black person above has fully integrated unlike other races? Well not knowing how you are defining race, what about the black Jamaicans who are married to black people. Are they not of the same race as the woman in your example above? HAve they failed to integrate?
If a Pakistani muslim marries an English born white muslim (yes they do exist) has the asian person integrated, or failed to because he is still a muslim? Are converts to Islam born and bred in this country now not integrating anymore?
I think you are saying that non Christians should abandon their religious convictions if they want to integrate in this country? Is that right?
I think your reasoning and argument is totally differnt to Pierre's who makes some good points that can be discussed. Your views just often make me shake my head in disbelieve when I read them.
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No, they dont have to marry a white person to integrate. The example I gave was of a family that no one could deny have integrated into the country they live in. The worst offenders for not integrating are people who originate from countries where every day life revolves around and is controlled by religion. (Not in the case of Jamaica)
My girlfriend is very religious and is a member of a religion that I would not choose to be part of, however despite her visits to pray 3 or 4 times a week and being from an asian country she has fully integrated into the community here.
She has not given up on her religion or the love of her home country, but she has instead accepted the way of life in the UK and adapted. (whilst stashing away the lovely money she earns here for her return to live in luxury) If she didn't like life that much in the UK she would go back home to live. She does not think the UK is different because there are terrible people like myself who speak their mind and do not follow any religion, but that doesn't cloud her judgement of people.
The biggest offenders who fail to integrate are those who come to the UK and hate our way of life, because the women act like whores and the men drink alchohol etc etc, why go to live in a country if you feel that way about it. If you have no choice but to live there its just something you have to put up with.
certain groups who come to live here segregate themselves instead of mixing with us nasty westerners, and there is certainly religion involved in the majority.