[danielf]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Which is exactly what I said in the post you quoted:

Pulling out our troops before then would be morally scandalous to me. It would be sticking two fingers up at the Iraqi's and abandoning them.
I don't think there is anyone alive that I've heard of saying that we should never pull troops out.
Everyone is either saying that we should pull them out when the time is right, or they're saying we should pull them out right now, either ignorant, unphased, or supportive (such as Locky was) of the resultant massacres which would take place.

Well, I think we should perhaps be a little more proactive in equipping the Iragis so we can pull out, because I do wonder how much good we are actually doing at the moment.