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Originally Posted by danielf
Oh, nice dichotomy there.  What I am saying is that there appears to be very little support for our presence in Iraq amongst the Iragis, and that our presence appears to be one of the causes of a lot of the violence.
So, we should consider pulling out but equip/train/whatever the Iraqis to deal with the violence themselves. Oh, and I'm not (necessarily) talking about the workers. It's the troops I'm talking about. |
Which is exactly what I said in the post you quoted:
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Exactly, through lack of support, and by allowing militias etc to gain power, hence why we should remain until the Iraqi goverment are able to keep the peace, rather than withdraw and let things get worse.
It's all about thinking of your fellow man rather than sticking two fingers up at them and leaving them to be killed.
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Pulling out our troops before then would be morally scandalous to me. It would be sticking two fingers up at the Iraqi's and abandoning them.
I don't think there is anyone alive that I've heard of saying that we should never pull troops out.
Everyone is either saying that we should pull them out when the time is right, or they're saying we should pull them out right now, either ignorant, unphased, or supportive (such as Locky was) of the resultant massacres which would take place.