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I live in one of those northern towns, and I disagree. There may be instances of frictions between different groups, but they had those in Glasgow and Liverpool (amongst others) in the 60's and 70's between Catholics and Protestants, and I don't remember anyone claiming that the UK would be over-run with left-footers within the next couple of generations.
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People like Trevor Philips have voiced serious concerns about the segregation of communities, as in
this speech. Is he doing any of the things you suggest? And I wouldn't call the recent riots "frictions"!
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I think the main reason that there is any possibility of "the country is fracturing along racial/cultural lines" is that people keep crying wolf for their own agendas, hoping to raise fear, uncertainty, and doubt amongst all members of society, to enable their own ends to be met.
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I disagree. I think as the country becomes more crowded, quality of life will fall for everyone here. But please be more specific. Which people are doing that and in what way are they doing so? Is
anyone who expresses concerns about mass immigration doing that in your view? And just what is the agenda of the people who
support mass immigration?
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Yes, there are issues and problems in areas of our communities, but there have always been social and cultural differences with immigrants to our shores, from the Romans, to the Normans, to the Huguenots, to the Commonwealth citizens of the Caribbean we invited in 50's and 60's - but it has all worked out in the end, because most people want to get along, and not use the fact that just because people are different, that does not make them "invaders" or "not brittish" (to quote earlier posters).
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The British population before the Black Death was approximately 7 million, and even by the 1960s it it still hadn't reached 53 million, so immigration in the past simply did not have the impact that it does today. It has now reached over 60 million and official predictions expect it to reach 70.5 million by 2074 with a current official net immigration rate of about 180,000 pa. (But the government doesn't actually know the population of the country so official estimates should be treated with caution.) Given that we are already one of the World's most densely populated countries, would you expect Britain's future inhabitants to have a good quality of life?
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total of only 50,000 or so Hugeunots fled to Britain when the population was still comparatively tiny and they
integrated. It is also interesting to note that after the Black Death which almost halved the population, life for the surviving peasants improved in that their employers had to contend with the increased mobility in the labour market prompting wage inflation ... the opposite of what we see today.