http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...ly-needed.html
2 mods in there agreeing NTL may have banned staff (notice may but I was talking of TW-BY only).
None of your comments take away the fact at the issue I was getting at caused issues of users, search for threads with modem upstream channel if you are that interested, its here or in DigitalSpy or both as far as I can remember.
And changing the upstream channel did work back then and probably still does on BY network and I believe the networks are still seperate for now.