Cable Forum - View Single Post - how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING

Bertie_MB · 10-05-2007, 22:45

I very much doubt any campaign that got started would help matters to be honest. If you don't like it then leave. Yes it's all very well saying "but I'm in a 12 month contract" - well thats the risk you take. Why would that be any different with any other company? You could have gone and got ADSL but then discovered your max speed was 512k - at the end of the day you'd have the same problem.

Some of the arguments are just plain ridiculous. The first post for example regarding an episode of TV. 350MB on a 1MB connection takes 2917 seconds (49 minutes) (assuming a speed of 120kb/s). Before you come back at me and say "well I can't get that speed because the connection's so bad" please don't. Thats an entirely different issue to the traffic shaping being discussed. So even if you spend your entire time downloading and watching TV, you'll still always be ahead of the amount you can watch (since at 2MB you'll have got 2 episodes already in half the time, so have some time spare).

The example of game demo's and movie trailers - well you can wait for those it's not like you're going anywhere. Add this all to the fact that the shaping only affects you once you've gone above the limits AND after 4pm AND for only 4 hours at a time and you can soon see how it's a sensible move by VM.

However if some of you would like to post some scenario's of internet usage (I mean actual numbers, not just "I download this tv program in twice the time") then maybe I'd change my views on this. If you can't do that to a user on the forums then what luck do you expect to have with VM, considering even if everyone on this site quite VM thats still only 10,000 customers. I don't see much chance of that happening either...

10-05-2007, 22:45	#127
Bertie_MB Inactive Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 46	Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING I very much doubt any campaign that got started would help matters to be honest. If you don't like it then leave. Yes it's all very well saying "but I'm in a 12 month contract" - well thats the risk you take. Why would that be any different with any other company? You could have gone and got ADSL but then discovered your max speed was 512k - at the end of the day you'd have the same problem. Some of the arguments are just plain ridiculous. The first post for example regarding an episode of TV. 350MB on a 1MB connection takes 2917 seconds (49 minutes) (assuming a speed of 120kb/s). Before you come back at me and say "well I can't get that speed because the connection's so bad" please don't. Thats an entirely different issue to the traffic shaping being discussed. So even if you spend your entire time downloading and watching TV, you'll still always be ahead of the amount you can watch (since at 2MB you'll have got 2 episodes already in half the time, so have some time spare). The example of game demo's and movie trailers - well you can wait for those it's not like you're going anywhere. Add this all to the fact that the shaping only affects you once you've gone above the limits AND after 4pm AND for only 4 hours at a time and you can soon see how it's a sensible move by VM. However if some of you would like to post some scenario's of internet usage (I mean actual numbers, not just "I download this tv program in twice the time") then maybe I'd change my views on this. If you can't do that to a user on the forums then what luck do you expect to have with VM, considering even if everyone on this site quite VM thats still only 10,000 customers. I don't see much chance of that happening either...