[sherer]

i have to say i think winning it now is alot easier with the group stages where you can loose games, i.e Celtic this season, plus with teams in England, italy and Spain you only need to finish in the top 4 to get back in next season even if you have to qualify for it

last night also showed why i can frustrated with Giggs... he just went through the motions and didn't do anything, although neither did any of the others, he's done that too many times in the past few years

Vidic clearly wasn't fit and maybe if he had gone off after 20 mins we might have done better

O'Shea couldn't pass the ball all night and he does that too often at RB and really didn't look United quality

Smith should have come on at HT.. stick him in midfield and he would have have given us some more bit and hunger