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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

People have said that belief in creation is a belief magic. Tell me please how the belief that a molten rock cooled and then life "magically" just started is any different at all?????

I can accept evolution happened after life begun on this planet. But I cant accept that life just happened

I thought it was 'cos Rincewind went back in time & dropped a sandwich



Seriously, here's a good Wiki entry about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life


And here's an entry on a classic experiment regarding the origin of life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experiment

Originally Posted by Chris T

What I do not observe is 'beneficial mutation', whether in humans or anywhere else.

As Xaccers has already said, most mutations are neutral rather than positive or negative.

Whether they have a positive or negative effect depends on the environment.


One example of a beneficial mutation is that of sickle cell anaemia.

There are others.


Info on mutations:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mutations.html

Originally Posted by Chris T

it is absurd to suggest that an eye could have arisen spontaneously.

Ah, the eye


No one claims that the eye arose spontaneously.


It's possible to demonstrate how the eye could have developed via evolution.


Also, if the eye was Created, rather than being a product of evolution, then it contains some glaring design flaws.

I already mentioned all this back here:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34277680-post207.html


And some links from that post:

http://www.2think.org/eye.shtml

http://www.2think.org/eye_response.shtml

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Paleontol...reationism.htm

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ce/3/part8.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/jury-rigged.html

Originally Posted by Chris T

Richard Dawkins, incidentally, who wrote The Blind Watchmaker (which was a book many years before it was a TV documentary by the way), is what you might call an evangelical atheist.

Ah, Dawkins...


I find his fanatical anti-religion stance rather uncomfortable, & feel he plays into the hands of what he would consider his opponents.