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Old 23-02-2007, 00:46   #45
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Re: The disgrace that is Rangers Football Club - Fans caught doing Nazi Salutes in Is

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Originally Posted by foreverwar View Post
If you have to ask what is wrong with visiting supporters making Nazi salutes in a country that was founded by the survivors of Genocide committed by the Nazis, no amount of explaining will make you understand.
I didn't ask "what was Wrong" I just failed to see the importance, and I still do. The Nazis were indeed terrible. So too were the japanese. But we have moved on and but for a few brainless scottish drunks I just fail to see the whole "uptightness" of the situation. I bet half of them don't even knew what the symbol meant.

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Out of 100 in the picture - quite a large percentage
well that would be 16% wouldn't it based onthe localisation of that photgraph. How many were at the ground 5,000 -10,000. I don't know, but it certainly cannot be representative of the fan base.

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But the fact that one in six in that picture were doing it, does tint them quite a bit.
again to small a snapshot to be sure.

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mmmm - I've never heard Genocide glorification described as non-PC before.
Ha... Genocide Glorification.......oh dear, oh dear.

Mindless idiots yes. trying to get a rise out of the opposition - yes. Insulting them - yes.

but if a Nazi salute is "genocide glorification" no doubt Freddie Starr, Father Ted, Indiana Jones (and that sitcom with a surburban couple living next to the hitlers) writers will all burn in hell.

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I don't remember the British nation gassing six million Germans in concentration camps, do you?
Maybe not gas but we bombed them virtuality into non-existence. I'm not apologising for that but eg. Dresden. we wiped them offthe face of the map. So I could definitely understand why the Germans could be upset about that. Not all Germans were Nazis. But we bombed the sh*t out of them.

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Bit of a difference between mocking descendants of survivors of a genocidal regime and that, perhaps?
Is it? is really? If you are out to offend, and that is your only objective - does it matter what the target is?

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Bad, but not six million perhaps?
Oh I see, there is a death threshold that has to be passed before we are offended. What is that by the way????

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Perhaps those of us who are ashamed of idiots who are seen as representatives of Britain abroad?
Well thats up to you. Me, I like to worry about things I can influenece.

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Perhaps the people/nation who were insulted may feel differently.
And they've been through at lot worse than this, so before you bestoe your anger, and then secondly your support upon them. Why not ask them how they feel. They probably have more pressing issues to deal with thasn wasting time on this non-entity


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And then in 1603 they came back and took over the monarchy.
Isn't democracy a wonderful thing.
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