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Originally Posted by Mr Angry
Sorry SMG, you seem to have misinterpreted the jist of my reply.
Acknowledging your incorrect assertion that there are / were only two facets to NI society (loyalist & republican) you stated that "loyalists would call Britain "our"." I'm merely referencing the fact that, by your own example, secularism in the form of "ours" and "theirs" is not a good thing. I think 30 odd years of murder pretty much proves my point.
I'm afraid you're "conclusion jumping" there.
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I'm sorry m8, I don't think I am. My initial comments related to Dabhands reference to the word "Your", in the context of him belonging to Great Britain. Its my opinion that when you belong to, or are part of, then you would refer to that as "Our". If you do not belong, or are not part of it, then you refer to it as "Your".
On your second point of sectarianism, you know that the 2 major players are the loyalists & the republicans. I don't remember many newscasts which regularly referred to other, minor groups. You know as well as I do, that this conflict resulted in many deaths, probably people you know, certainly friends I knew. I had a sweaty ar*e on many an occasion. Right or wrong, segregation, sectarianism creates conflict. Civil war, people arguing, fighting, killing. In that regard I fully agree with you that "it is not a good thing". Perhaps we should "Agree" to "Disagree" with a few points.
"30 odd years of murder" certainly shows that conflict is not good, however, it has no relation to my ascertains regarding the use of the words "Your" & "Our". Like I said, its my opinion. If we all had the same views, we`d have nowt to talk about, nowt to argue, fight or kill for, & a lot of lives would be spared.
My views & opinions appear to be hard, but thats only with living a very outgoing life, & witnessing the suffering & deprivation inflicted on innocent people. You can watch killing on TV anytime. When you witness it first hand, it affects you in ways you couldn't imagine. Life takes on a whole new meaning. Back in the 70`s, I watched the parades in NI, first hand. I heard the ranting, chanting, & death threats spouted by both sides. It led to more conflict & killing.
I see Muslims marching, ranting, chanting, shouting death threats, & I don't want to see it anymore. I don't want to keep hearing about it, & I don't want to hear any more about Islam. I just want to live in peace. So my personal message is simple, whoever you are, black, white, or somewhere in between. Whatever your religion, Christian, Muslim etc, keep it to yourself, stop inflicting it on others, stop inciting conflict & leading my country into civil war.