[Shaun]

To give you an idea - If you took a similar package from Sky, BT and 18185 you'd get :

Landline (BT): 11.00
BB (upto 16Mbit) : 10.00
TV (all mixes and sports + movies): 43.50
Sky talk (including free calls to 10 international destinations): 5.00

Total:£69.50

If you wanted Sky+ there is a £99.00 charge which is an extra £8.25 a month for the first 12 months.

So it'd be £79.75 for the first year then 69.50 after that.

If you took the same but with 18185 it'd be £5 a month less but you'd get landline calls of an unlimited length for 4p each. This may benefit those who make few landline calls or no internationals.

There is again the other option of taking BB from Ntl, getting a Vonage line for your calls (saving £8 a month over Sky talk and BT) and then TV from whoever has the best deal.

It's not as clear cut as some would like us to believe.

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Originally Posted by shawty

Same difference, the packages are there in black and white on the other companys website or phone them up to.

And my comment was sugesting the OP and the other posters do this to determine if the VIP package is the best package for them - this is the point ot the thread isn't it?

At the end of the day he asked if they would offer the VIP package without some of the services at a reduced price,

He did and you answered that point - I was trying to answer other questions too.

i said yes if you threaten to leave they might but thats not the right way of doing it. The VIP package is the VIP package, nothing more nothing less. All the information he needs is on the website or phoneline which i advised him to do if he didnt want all the services the VIP package offered, i dont see why you need to roll your eyes at me when i have given correct advice

Because from your posts your just telling him to take the package and be done with it - I think this is bad advice - people should compare all that is available to them not just one supplier.

and the 2 bits of advice you had given one was incorrect.

I was wrong about the package but correct in the assertion that there are cheaper packages available even if the package is different:

"You're right I was under the understanding that it would be TU weekends however my assertions are still true :"

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At the end of the day I'm sure we agree the customer should always go for the package (from what ever provider) that provides them with the best features and benefits they can get/use.

After all the thread title is "Virgin packages - are they a good deal?" How on earth can you tell without comparing them to other providers?