[punky]

Originally Posted by BBKing

Excellent idea - let's get the US Army to do it. Oh, hang on, they're a bit busy. Oh, and Egypt is an ally of the US (their torture chambers are very useful, these days) and indeed of Israel. Slight lack of real world thinking there, I think, Gavin.

I note Libya are all upset at Saddam biting the big one. That's Libya under the good Colonel Ghaddafi, who's our mate, who sells us oil and gave up his WMD, and is a dictator who used to support terrorism.

If we're going to overthrow all these dictators, we're going to have to depose the leadership of the US first, I think, since they seem to be allied with most of them (throw in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan if you want).

What I think is totally unfair is blaming the UN here. It can't do anything its members won't do, after all, and it's key members (i.e., us, the US, France, Russia and China) don't want to overthrow their friends, pet torturers and business partners. Sadly, blaming the UN is a kneejerk reaction in those quarters that get their news from the American loony right.

I am not going to argue this with you when you just rely on your old standbys of deriding and insulting other members, extreme anti-American rhetoric and liberal use of sarcasm and straw men in lieu of any real useful discussion.