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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004
How is execution defined?
A bomb is dropped in an area, this results in x amount of people killed, I am sorry, but this cannot be excused with the excuse " we meant to kill the 50 insurgents in that building "
Looking at the above, could it be said that under humanitarian reasons the attack should not have happened?
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So do you believe that we should not bomb buildings from which Iraqi insurgents are mounting attacks and killing Iraqis and Coalition personnel?
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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004
Yet our government oppose " execution " on humanitarian grounds.
So where are we with this government? they cannot legitimate execution of one group of people yet distance themselves when we have an example of hanging, at the end of the day it is still execution, imo its not apples and frogs, one dead body through hanging is the same as one dead body through a indiscriminate bombing, you see, when the ira were blowing up civilians in ireland our government were on the tv deploring, and rightly so, the indiscriminate killings, but now along with america they see things differently, is that not hypocrisy?
I dont need to disclose where I served during my service, does this influence what I am entitled to say? why ask?
I think I have made my point, over to others  |
I think the big difference we have is that you seem to equate "state execution" as the same as "acts of war", which if you were, in fact, in the regular armed forces for any length of time, is an extremely unusual viewpoint, and a strange moral equivalence.
I did not say you "
had to" disclose where you served, I only asked out of curiosity, as most people are proud of their service career, and are willing to discuss it; and yes, I (imho) do believe it influences an answer, as personal experience can vary one's viewpoint. It's my belief if you had seen action, you would have realised that everything isn't nice and neat and tidy when things are whizzing past your head (and I don't mean paintballs or airsoft). I wonder what your last three were?
And the fact you equate the IRA bombing of civilians with Coalition bombing in Iraq means we will never see eye-to-eye on this subject - I believe that the IRA intended to kill civilians as part of a terrorist campaign, whilst the Iraqi casualties are killed by accident during an attack on insurgents (doesn't make it any better for them, but surely motivation has to be involved somewhere for guilt to be attributed). You keep using the emotive phrase "indiscriminate bombing" when there is no evidence to back up that phrase.