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Originally Posted by foreverwar
arcamalpha, I think you are (perhaps unintentionally) putting forward the premise that the Coalition governments have given orders that bombs should be dropped on innocent civilians, and equating that with the execution of Saddam.
You are equating execution with firing weapons in a conflict - comparing apples and frogs. And before anyone says that the troops should endeavour to avoid civilian casualties, I should stress that all troops are given these guidelines, and I am sure that most try to follow them, but not as easy as it sounds when RPG's and bullets are pinging off (and through) your transport (not an excuse, just, perhaps, a reason).
Unfortunately, real life is not like the movies, and when a house with insurgents in it gets destroyed in a firefight/bombed, buildings (and people) around it get damaged/injured/killed too - it's not nice, but the option is to allow insurgents the ability to fire at Coalition and Iraqi forces unopposed. You make it sound as if the order is to injure/kill civilians, and if that is not what you meant, you perhaps need to rephrase the statement "the government cannot justify dropping bombs on innocent people" and "mass killings" (post 332).
I don't think that the American siege of Falluja (estimated civilian deaths 600) was a good thing, but I don't use it to tar the rest of the Coalition forces with the same brush
You mentioned you spent some time in the services - what mob were you in, and did you see "active service"?
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How is execution defined?
A bomb is dropped in an area, this results in x amount of people killed, I am sorry, but this cannot be excused with the excuse " we meant to kill the 50 insurgents in that building "
Looking at the above, could it be said that under humanitarian reasons the attack should not have happened?
Yet our government oppose " execution " on humanitarian grounds.
So where are we with this government? they cannot legitimate execution of one group of people yet distance themselves when we have an example of hanging, at the end of the day it is still execution, imo its not apples and frogs, one dead body through hanging is the same as one dead body through a indiscriminate bombing, you see, when the ira were blowing up civilians in ireland our government were on the tv deploring, and rightly so, the indiscriminate killings, but now along with america they see things differently, is that not hypocrisy?
I dont need to disclose where I served during my service, does this influence what I am entitled to say? why ask?
I think I have made my point, over to others
