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Old 01-01-2007, 16:39   #360
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Re: Update: Saddam Hussein Executed

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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 View Post
John reid? " The services are "aware" of units being active.
I think that spells it out.
However, thats going off topic, sorry I went off topic.
Just to add, I have spent some time in the services.
But the government cannot justify dropping bombs on innocent people by claiming that its for a better tomorrow, otherwise, bearing in mind its only a few of them, for what its worth, the officers on the ground should know how many insurgents they are looking at, why not do the same here or ireland if its to rid the world of terror?
arcamalpha, I think you are (perhaps unintentionally) putting forward the premise that the Coalition governments have given orders that bombs should be dropped on innocent civilians, and equating that with the execution of Saddam.

You are equating execution with firing weapons in a conflict - comparing apples and frogs. And before anyone says that the troops should endeavour to avoid civilian casualties, I should stress that all troops are given these guidelines, and I am sure that most try to follow them, but not as easy as it sounds when RPG's and bullets are pinging off (and through) your transport (not an excuse, just, perhaps, a reason).

Unfortunately, real life is not like the movies, and when a house with insurgents in it gets destroyed in a firefight/bombed, buildings (and people) around it get damaged/injured/killed too - it's not nice, but the option is to allow insurgents the ability to fire at Coalition and Iraqi forces unopposed. You make it sound as if the order is to injure/kill civilians, and if that is not what you meant, you perhaps need to rephrase the statement "the government cannot justify dropping bombs on innocent people" and "mass killings" (post 332).

I don't think that the American siege of Falluja (estimated civilian deaths 600) was a good thing, but I don't use it to tar the rest of the Coalition forces with the same brush

You mentioned you spent some time in the services - what mob were you in, and did you see "active service"?
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